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The better goddess (My first pull here)
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Author:  Donomite [ Wed Jun 12, 2002 3:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The better goddess (My first pull here)
No one is saying Washu is inferior. The arguement is if Washu is superior. She is not superior.<br><br>One step further, we shall go. Of all of Washu's "things", they can be copied, except for her goddess gems. As for Tsunami: Tenchi can not be copied, the spaceship trees can't either, I believe (or else Jurai wouldn't have production problems, probably).<br><br>Comparison between Ryoko's powers and Tenchi's. What powers? Ryoko has no real power! She's fairly weak without any gems (replica or real), right? With replica gems, she's still no where near the goddess most people proclaim her to be. With the exception of the Washu gems, Ryoko can be copied all the way through. Tenchi, on the other hand, is something else that can't be produced... Kagato couldn't copy his attack, and I'm willing to bet they can't make a copy of Tenchi that can form lighthawk wings, either (Washu did hundreds of tests and couldn't explain Tenchi's power, remember?).<br><br>Washu is cool and all, but I don't think she's superior. In fact, she's alarmingly weak (like all of us). Imagine if a villain like Mastermind, or (something a lot more powerful) Shadow King, tried messing with Washu. What do you think would happen??<br><br>**She's already in the form of a 12 year old because she can't stand the way adults live and act. This is a sign that losing her love and her baby have scarred her. She's vulnerable.**<br><br>On the flip side, Tsunami's not doing rocket science and Tokimi's too shy to come into our little galaxy and collect her sisters herself. They aren't more impressive than Washu.<br><br>Side-note: Sometimes, I get the feeling it's going to take cooperation between Washu and Tsunami to handle Tokimi. It makes sense... 2 to 1. It takes 2 to out-vote 1, anyway. <p><hr>"Me eat you up! Me eat you up! Me eat you up! You turn into a cookie!" - Majin Buu</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub19.ezboard.com/udonomite.showPublicProfile?language=EN>Donomite</A> at: 6/12/02 3:00:31 pm<br></i>
Author:  Sir Red XIV [ Wed Jun 12, 2002 6:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The better goddess (My first pull here)
Tsunami created her tree form, in the same way that Washu created her gems & her human form. All the other Juraian trees are the offspring of the original. And just as replica gems are inferior to Washu's original gems, these trees are inferior to the original. With each generation, they get less powerful. 3rd-generation trees, for example, have to team up to form even a single Light Hawk Wing. 4th-generation trees and beyond can't even do that; a thousand of them combining their power would still result in zero Wings.<br><br>BTW, I tend to think that Tokimi is incapable of coming in to collect Tsunami and Washu herself. Or at least incapable of doing so in a way she's willing to. Remember, neither Tsunami nor Washu entered "our" universe in their original forms. Washu came as a pseudo-human, and Tsunami came as a tree. Perhaps Tokimi is unwilling to make such a sacrifice to enter, and thus she employs others to do her bidding. <p><center><img src="http://server27.hypermart.net/redxiv/ryoko2.gif" width="73" height="81"><a href="mailto:babelfisherperson@hotmail.com"><img src="http://server27.hypermart.net/redxiv/AkaiJuyon.gif" width="91" height="20" alt="Red XIV" border="0"></a><img src="http://server27.hypermart.net/redxiv/tenchi2.gif" width="63" height="95"></center></p><i></i>
Author:  Donomite [ Wed Jun 12, 2002 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The better goddess (My first pull here)
Yes, I'm aware of all of that (about the generations), but you still can't copy them. The spaceship trees and Tenchi are, in a sense, powered by the essence of their being. That's one that's hard to explain.<br><br>Washu's things are centered around the laws of our universe and can be duplicated. Ryoko without her gems is fairly powerless.<br><br>All that's really saying is that each goddess is powerful in their own regard.<br><br>And the last paragraph was like a peace offering... I meant all of that in humor. o.O<br><br>You can't deny the details. You seem hung up on this inferior thing. <p><hr>"Me eat you up! Me eat you up! Me eat you up! You turn into a cookie!" - Majin Buu</p><i></i>
Author:  Yujenisis [ Wed Jun 12, 2002 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The better goddess (My first pull here)
<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><b><i>Quote:</i></b><hr> All that's really saying is that each goddess is powerful in their own regard.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>And most logical people would agree with you. Naturally people might be swayed by their personal biases for a particular character, but I think most people would agree they are intended to be more or less equally powerful. That is probably the intended effect.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><b><i>Quote:</i></b><hr> BTW, I tend to think that Tokimi is incapable of coming in to collect Tsunami and Washu herself.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>She may not have the ability to gain a physical form. What if she is an incorporeal lifeform, which I would consider a very good power. In addition, she is the most likely to be the "omniscient" omnipresent of the three. Which would certainly make things interesting.<br><br>We don't know if Tokimi's intentions are evil, but the show definetly clearly is making her into a antagonist. So I could see how people could argue she is being set up to be a villain. But who knows. ^.^ <p> <br> <div align="center"><font color="#666666"><i>Ten years ago, something happened.<br> Something small. Something most people didn't notice.<br> But it did touch a few of us. Then a few more. And a few more.<br> And soon that something was spreading in all directions at once.<br> One ripple followed another, at a faster and faster pace,<br> each new wave gaining more distance than the last.<br> <br> And the ripples keep coming.</i></font><br> <br> -From "So Far: The First Ten Years of a Vision"<br> <br> <a href="http://www.xenu.net/" target="_top"><img border="0" alt="Operation Clambake" height="61" width="433" src="http://www.xenu.net/archive/banners/oc20.jpg"> </a> <br> <embed src="http://www.xenu.net/archive/banners/diduknow.swf" quality="high" bgcolor="#000000" menu="false" width="320" height="49" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"> <br> <font size="-2"><a href="http://www.xenu.net/">Visit Xenu.net!</a></font> </div></p><i></i>
Author:  Cerebrate Araq [ Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:12 pm ]
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...Yujensis, What is a omnipresent?<br><br>And the Souja... taken down by lighthawk wings from Tenchi.<br>@@@<br><br>That was Kagato Tenchi took down. Not Soja.<br>Anyway, Soja did take down Ruo oh's 3 LHWs. Think what it could do to Tenchi. :evil <p><center><img src="http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzAvMS8xMDI5LzE1NS8zMi8zQWw0RXFtRVAzRG5zNnVqOWtlS0Nn/8d6f305218c0149d96e8324baf6d5de0/clbk=*EtEZjHm6cpJy!qupv9DKmf9ISFphzyTPxf3ytEZtJw2uGdkqveObjzxcnASjhjgtgmm81m6V!E$/jpg.jpg"></center><center>"Not the face!! Anything but the FACE!!"</center></p><i></i>
Author:  Linden Ryuujin [ Thu Jun 13, 2002 6:02 am ]
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Omnipresent is being everywhere, at the same time. <p><CENTER><HR><IMG SRC="http://www.lindenssite.btinternet.co.uk/Ezboard/Sigpic1.jpg"><BR><FONT Size=2><B>"oooh they have the internet on computers now"</B> - <I>Homer Simpson</I><BR><A HREF="http://www.lindenssite.btinternet.co.uk" TARGET="_top">Visit my Final Fantasy Site</A> and <A HREF="http://pub61.ezboard.com/bcomputergamesandanime" TARGET="_top">My Board</A> ^_^<P>PH33R 7H3 M0U53<BR><:3)~~~~</CENTER></p><i></i>
Author:  Sir Red XIV [ Thu Jun 13, 2002 12:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The better goddess (My first pull here)
Well, there is substantial evidence that Tenchi's LHWs are more powerful than Ryu-oh's. Tokimi was, after all, at a loss to explain how Tenchi could be as powerful as he is with only three LHWs. <p><center><img src="http://server27.hypermart.net/redxiv/ryoko2.gif" width="73" height="81"><a href="mailto:babelfisherperson@hotmail.com"><img src="http://server27.hypermart.net/redxiv/AkaiJuyon.gif" width="91" height="20" alt="Red XIV" border="0"></a><img src="http://server27.hypermart.net/redxiv/tenchi2.gif" width="63" height="95"></center></p><i></i>
Author:  Light Guardian [ Thu Jun 13, 2002 2:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The better goddess (My first pull here)
I like the Goddess-Triforce theory, each goddess has a different kind of power (like Legend of Zelda) Tsunami is courage, Washu is wisdom, and Tokimi is power. Also, Soja was directly created with some of Washu's power, which wasnt divided that much, so of course it could take down Ryu-Oh because Ryu-Oh was a decendant from Tsunami, and its power wasnt very directly connected with Tsunami (there are many spaceship trees). And to explain Tenchi "destroying" Soja, I think Soja and Kagato were linked like Ryoko and Ryo-Oki, except that Soja is less independent than Ryo-Oki (Ryo-Oki is almost fully organic, while Soja only shows some signs of being living, like taking Ryoko's power) When Tenchi "killed" Kagato, it caused a disruption in Soja because of the link, so Soja got destroyed. <p>"I'm the greatest, and I can't possibly be beat!- Cassius Clay aka Muhammed Ali"I am become death, the destroyer of worlds"- Robert Oppenheimer </p><i></i>
Author:  Cerebrate Araq [ Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The better goddess (My first pull here)
It's kinda like with a Evangelion and it's pilot. But it goes bouth ways.<br>The pilot "feels" what the Eva feels. <p></p><i></i>
Author:  Neo Kamidake [ Fri Jun 14, 2002 10:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The better goddess (My first pull here)
That also sounds like Pilot Candidate. In the AMHV's (Advanced Mechanized Humanoid Vehicle), Pro ING's (trainer variant of the AMHV), and the Goddesses (massive, incredibly powerful AMHV's) the pilot's consciousness fuses with the suit's. This increases the pilot's abilities, but whatever damage is done to the suit, the pilot suffers comparable damage to his own body! <p></p><i></i>
Author:  HolyKnight X [ Sat Jun 15, 2002 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The better goddess (My first pull here)
Washu ownz all for free over and over and over again. Its the only way to go. <p><img src="http://holyknight.homestead.com/files/lulutag.gif"></p><i></i>
Author:  Yujenisis [ Sat Jun 15, 2002 3:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The better goddess (My first pull here)
It's an age-old idea that's existed as long as the Japanse obsession with Super-Robots.<br><br>The idea of the mech being nothing more but an extension of the body of it's pilot.<br><br>It's used as a plot device in MOST shows. Though certainly Evangelion takes it a huge step forward with the idea of the EVANGELION. <p> <br> <div align="center"><font color="#666666"><i>Ten years ago, something happened.<br> Something small. Something most people didn't notice.<br> But it did touch a few of us. Then a few more. And a few more.<br> And soon that something was spreading in all directions at once.<br> One ripple followed another, at a faster and faster pace,<br> each new wave gaining more distance than the last.<br> <br> And the ripples keep coming.</i></font><br> <br> -From "So Far: The First Ten Years of a Vision"<br> <br> <a href="http://www.xenu.net/" target="_top"><img border="0" alt="Operation Clambake" height="61" width="433" src="http://www.xenu.net/archive/banners/oc20.jpg"> </a> <br> <embed src="http://www.xenu.net/archive/banners/diduknow.swf" quality="high" bgcolor="#000000" menu="false" width="320" height="49" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"> <br> <font size="-2"><a href="http://www.xenu.net/">Visit Xenu.net!</a></font> </div></p><i></i>
Author:  oXLilWashuXo [ Thu Jul 25, 2002 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The better goddess
Washu is the coolest. <p>"You say I'm Irken like it's a bad thing."~oXLilWashuXo <img src=http://chooseyourbanners.homestead.com/files/cherry_dib_gaz.jpg></p><i></i>
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