Who is the best villian {besides Kagato}

**Posted:** Tue Jul 23, 2002 8:04 pm

Nahh. Villians need development. Neither Kain or Kagato got any really. I hate the whole Good versus evil idea. Nothing is ever that simple. INTEL INSIDE It's not a marketing gimick, it's a warning label.

**Posted:** Tue Jul 23, 2002 10:25 pm

Well Kagato got some development in the True Tenchi Novels. <center><img src="http://bishydbd.netfirms.com/d3.jpg "> <center>I am the one. <center>I am Tsunami's apprentice. <center> I am one of the few <center>able to produce <center>10 Light Hawk Wings!!

**Posted:** Tue Jul 23, 2002 10:56 pm

..... which we haven't read. <center>Stig opp pÃ¥ min trone bleke lik Fall pÃ¥ kne er dÃ¸d i ett foran mine fÃ¸tter Ta imot mitt kalde kyss pÃ¥ din panne Jeg har lagt veien som fÃ¸rer til Helvete klar</center>

**Posted:** Tue Jul 23, 2002 11:23 pm

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**Posted:** Wed Jul 24, 2002 12:02 am

Kagato did, however, have a personality. Something Kain lacked. <center><img src="http://img2.ranchoweb.com/images/redxiv/ryoko2.gif" width="73" height="81"><a href="mailto:babelfisherperson@hotmail.com"><img src="http://img2.ranchoweb.com/images/redxiv/akaijuyon.gif" width="91" height="20" alt="Red XIV" border="0"></a><img src="http://img2.ranchoweb.com/images/redxiv/tenchi2.gif" width="63" height="95"></center>

**Posted:** Wed Jul 24, 2002 8:44 am

........ Kain never had a soul to start with. And yes I agree with Yujenisis, I don't care for this "Good guy VS Bad guy" ether. <center><img src="http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzAvMS8xMDI5LzE1NS8zMi9WZUN0cUZ2ek83Z1NWak5wcVVSalVR/bca50a4610f0ccd4c068e1b52d8fde47/clbk=HcZNnT9kkUiOsWHzmunMZ2x!b9quZN8n!RgFFZsu3jWS7dq5XmqKVb39Hq7AvZUjR*icZCVEzZs$/jpg.jpg"></center> <center>"I hold your dreams (and nightmares), your life, your past, your future, I hold everything, and yet, I hold nothing."</center>

**Posted:** Wed Jul 24, 2002 6:22 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Kagato did, however, have a personality. Something Kain lacked.<hr></blockquote> That's very true. Of course all we did see of who KAIN was that he was a "bad guy" who was VERY bent on revenge at the expense of all else. KAIN at least as a visual is far more interesting and creative than Kagato. Although Kagato is pretty interesting looking as well. He isn't as 'original' as KAIN who, if provided, with more development would be a much better bad guy. Of course if you are looking for something without this whole Good v. Evil thing. And looking for characters that get more than shallow development you're in the wrong genre. I suggest you either go to Shoujo or find some Shounen that focuses a bit more on characters and less on comedy. INTEL INSIDE It's not a marketing gimick, it's a warning label.

**Posted:** Wed Jul 24, 2002 10:14 pm

Kain really isn't that original either. He reminds me a lot of the the liquid metal T1000 in  Terminator 2. That was a great film and the T1000 was a great villian. His motives were very clearly defined and rational (he's a machine of course) and not based on emotion (hate,revenge) like Kain. <img src=http://users.adelphia.net/~henheart/images/tenchiryoko2.jpg> I've never regretted anything I've ever done in my entire life

**Posted:** Wed Jul 24, 2002 11:56 pm

A good place to start for "baddies" that make black and white more grey-ish is Escaflowne. A GREAT place to start for a shounen show that takes some shoujo influences and creates a great show. <center>Stig opp pÃ¥ min trone bleke lik Fall pÃ¥ kne er dÃ¸d i ett foran mine fÃ¸tter Ta imot mitt kalde kyss pÃ¥ din panne Jeg har lagt veien som fÃ¸rer til Helvete klar</center>

**Posted:** Thu Jul 25, 2002 2:41 pm

Well, as far as power and destructive force goes, Kain is second worst after Kagato. I put Kagato first...'cause...*jumps in the air*...he's so cool!! Oops, that was probably not an appropriate response...hmm... But, seriously, Kagato is the best...he's got the mandatory accent, nothing-can-harm-me-'cause-Im-so-bad attitude, he's a genius, power-hungry, and has all the wrong intentions ^^ <img src=http://villageanime.com/tenchi/images/ryokoback1.bmp>

**Posted:** Thu Jul 25, 2002 3:30 pm

i think kagato is a loser.

**Posted:** Thu Jul 25, 2002 6:17 pm

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**Posted:** Thu Jul 25, 2002 6:39 pm

I thought Kagato was the best villain in the series for the same reasons as RM. The whole reason why he's not a choice is because I wanted to see who would win if Kagato wasn't a competior. Perverted, ain't I? <img src=http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/kingston/196/wib25.jpg

**Posted:** Thu Jul 25, 2002 9:28 pm

I would like to see Kain appear on OAV or GXP, that would be neat. I duno, just an idea. <center><img src="http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzAvMS8xMDMwLzE1NS8zMi9ZMk1BYlFNeHNFOGloUkhId2JFSWN3/ca34d1af927e87bb341470c520f32e32/clbk=HcZNnT9kkUiOsWHzmunMZ2x!b9quZN8nVwsSEtOtcJTgGrp8lFLGPrVMVR58mIV!04DHnVu65p0$/jpg.jpg"></center>

**Posted:** Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:36 am

It's hard to think of Tokimi as evil, but I guess there had to be at least one bad goddess out of the three... Yakage was a pretty good villain in the manga as well. I think he wasn't as big a threat as Kain or even Kagato, but there was a flair about him that made him menacing. I admired his determination to surpass Washu with his creations, but fell tragically short. And he did give Ryoko and Tenchi quite a fight, putting their swordsmanship to the test. <center><img src=http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/jamie/1221/127680e0.jpg> </center><center>"Love is a battlefield..."</center>

Who is the best villian {besides Kagato}

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