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Author:  välismaalane [ Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Washu+Ryoko in the past... a few questions

Hi everyone,

After many years not watching Anime/reading Manga, I just out of boredom started to watch Tenchi Muyo a second time, because I remembered that I liked it as a kid.
At the moment I try to find out what is known about Ryokos past and Washu creating her, because I find that to be one of the most interesting parts of the whole story.
So maybe I could get some help here? I've tried to use "search", but that was of little help, couldn't find anything. I also read the FAQ, also didn't find anything I haven't known yet.

Well, until now I've watched the OVA-Series 1-3 (and as well Tenchi Universe and TiT, but as these have another background story, thats not really important I think). I watched everything on youtube, English version. Now there are just the 3 movies missing. Further, I know that certain page with some translations from that Japanese Tenchi novels... OF COURSE I can't find that link NOW that I need it... argh... :evil: its the one with a text about Ryoko serving Kagato and murdering and having no feelings first and then developing some whilst taking drugs and so on... and then there's also a text about Juraian empire and the kings and Yosho hunting Ryoko... maybe you know what I mean?
So far about my "background knowledge".

I wonder why on Wikipedia they wrote about her being "raised in a tube with no contact with Washu" - where's that from? Anyone knows?
And then in EP 6 when Washu tells her she's her mother, Ryoko is telling her to stop joking and says something like "I've been alone since I was born... was I born?". But theres no further comments about that. So it means she doesn't remember being born/raised? Or has she never been a kid? Is there any information about that?
Or do some people know something I don't know yet? Would be great! (And please excuse me if there are some misstakes in my posts, English is not my mother tounge...)

Author:  Kamiki Takeshi Jurai [ Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Washu+Ryoko in the past... a few questions

Well, Washu was sealed away approx. 5'000 years ago, around the time of both Ryoko and Herm!Kagatos creation. There is an image showing an infant Ryoko and a small Ryo-Ohki crystal in a tube. I don't know if that's canon, but it sounds like the inspiration for the wiki article. It is canon that Ryoko was made using Washu's ovum, which is what makes her Ryoko's mother. It's never stated, but it's highly unlikely that Washu would have carried her to term inside her, so being 'raised in a tube' seems right.

It should also be said that Ryoko wasn't the first masu creation Washu made, so again it's probable that Ryoko would develop the same way as the others. There's no information I'm aware of about her early development, but I'd guess she emerged fully grown, as she was built to be used to test the Gems.

Author:  välismaalane [ Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Washu+Ryoko in the past... a few questions

So Ryokos age would be 5000 years? Cause during the OVA Series shes talking about being only 2000 years old...
And as far as I know, Kagato stole her from Washu - so that must have been before she was actually "born" or "awakened" or whatever to call it, right? Otherwise I wonder why she didn't remember Washu...
Is there anything said in the Manga about that story? Haven't read them yet.

Author:  Kamiki Takeshi Jurai [ Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Washu+Ryoko in the past... a few questions

If you mean the Okuda mangas, they're not part of the OAV continuity, although they are built upon it.

As for Ryoko, she did say she was 2'000, however, according to the 101 Secrets:

45. How can Ryoko be 2017 years old?

Answer:
Because she uses a different calendar.

More details ...
Ryoko shouted at Washu, "No kidding! I've been alone for 2000 years ever since I was born... Born?" (ep.6, Ryoko). But Washu was confined for 5000 years. Is it a mistake in the anime? (^_^;)

No. Washu used time calculated in year of Earth while Ryoko used her own time scale. Ryoko was subconsciously trying to deny her age. After all a mere 2000 is much younger than 5000 years old. If she adjusted her time scale to that of Earth, this gap wouldn't have occurred. In conclusion, Ryoko is 5000 years old in Earth year. All other characters' age is calculated in Galactic Standard Calendar. For example, Washu's age (20000 years old) is in this standard.

So assuming the difference between Earth years and GSY is a simple 2.5 times longer, Washu is actually 50'000 years old.

As to why she doesn't remeber Washu, it's not been said AFAIK, but my guess would that she simply didn't come on-line until after Washu was sealed away. You might say why did she claim to have been born then, but she also claims to be a human being, which isn't true either save by the broadest definition of human.

Author:  wolfstemple [ Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:01 pm ]
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Author:  välismaalane [ Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Washu+Ryoko in the past... a few questions

Thanks a lot so far... that all about different calendars and stuff is totally confusing! I find it quite strange, her saying to be 2000 years old for seeming young actually, lol... is there any further reason mentioned for why she doen't like the fact that she is old?

And next question: Where is it known from that she has no taste buds? And is there any reason for it?

Author:  Kamiki Takeshi Jurai [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Washu+Ryoko in the past... a few questions

Why she doesn't like being old? She's a woman.

As for the tastebuds, this was stated in background material, but has been alluded to on the show. For example, when she was trying to cook a meal for Tenchi and added all kinds of ingrediants.

The real reason is a descion made during the writing process. As for in show....nope, nothing. Maybe she got that from her masu half. Or, since she wasn't meant to be sentient, there was no need to give her any.

Author:  wolfstemple [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:08 pm ]
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Author:  Kamiki Takeshi Jurai [ Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Washu+Ryoko in the past... a few questions

Where does it say that Kagato did it? From everything I've seen, it seems that Ryoko has never had much of a sense of taste and since Kagato never bothered with things outside his research, it seems unlikely he'd arbitrarily remove them.

@ välismaalane: For your interest, while checking up on the above, I re-discovered that, according to the 101, Kagato sealed away Washu and took control of Ryoko when she was a child.

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