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Samurai vs. Ninja
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Author:  Zhuge Liang [ Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Samurai vs. Ninja
Who wins? :P<br><br>~ZL <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.lindenryuujin.34sp.com/zhugeLiang/Sigpic1.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <br>Empires wax and wane; states cleave asunder and coalesce. <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"Swift as the wind, silent as the forest, fierce as the fire, steady as the mountain."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> A banner used by the Takeda clan of Kai (Sengoku Jidai era). </p><i></i>
Author:  Chi ME [ Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:41 pm ]
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I vote Samurai. <p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><br><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://members.cox.net/melock11/Tenchi/washutypes.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><br></p><i></i>
Author:  Docs Fox [ Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:34 pm ]
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^.^ Depends <p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img82.exs.cx/img82/1691/kuramasiggy1eh.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
Author:  Chibi Yosho [ Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:09 pm ]
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Ninja. The way of the Samurai is too intense. But maybe that's good... Meh, who knows? <p><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://bulletformyvalentine.com"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img85.exs.cx/img85/8108/logo57.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
Author:  el tonto [ Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:01 pm ]
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obviously the one who ends end standing after the battle...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
Author:  Chibi Yosho [ Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:31 pm ]
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A battle I'd like to see. <p><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://bulletformyvalentine.com"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img85.exs.cx/img85/8108/logo57.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
Author:  Slizerzak [ Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:58 pm ]
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SAmurai geez havent any of you seen last samurai?? <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/4253GIEEO/203025.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Favorite Animes<br>1. Tenchi Muyo<br>2. Ghost in the Shell<br>3. Read or Die <br>4. Cowboy Bebop<br>5. Onegai Teacher</p><i></i>
Author:  Chibi Yosho [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:55 am ]
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XD Yeah but Tom Cruise doesn't make a believable Samurai! <p><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://bulletformyvalentine.com"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img85.exs.cx/img85/8108/logo57.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
Author:  Qem Edmm [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:59 pm ]
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Ninja cheat and are willing to use firearms @.@;<br><br>Samurai have better armour. And come from richer backgrounds.<br><br>Samurai hire ninja! o.O Not the other way around....<br><br><br>So... Guess which one I pick. o.o; <p>~Qem<Br><a href="http://p078.ezboard.com/binuyashatherpg"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Qemedmm/dude/watch.jpg"alt="Inuyasha The RPG!"></a><br><a href="http://p078.ezboard.com/binuyashatherpg">Inuyasha The RPG</a></p><i></i>
Author:  Linden Ryuujin [ Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:14 pm ]
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It all depends on the setting, in an open fight the samurai would win... but it would never get to that as the Ninja would have already killed the Samurai, probably the previous week whilst he slept <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :b --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":b"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.lindenryuujin.34sp.com/DreamsOfTwilight/index.php"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.lindenryuujin.34sp.com/Ezboard/Sigpic8.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>~ Links ~<!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END-->[ <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.lindenryuujin.34sp.com/DreamsOfTwilight/index.php">Dreams of Twilight</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> | <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://pub19.ezboard.com/btenchimuyo79943">Tenchi Board</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> ]</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
Author:  Zhuge Liang [ Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:18 pm ]
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In open battle; Samurai.<br><br>They outnumber the Ninja obviously.<br><br>But in stealth and secret missions or one on one, I would favor Ninja. Their tactics are specifically for dealing with samurai and yes, any means to accomplish the objective.<br><br>~ZL<br><br>Samurai have more honor though; Ninja have honor but their code is different. Samurai=die for honor; die honorably. Ninja=live to complete the mission. There is honor in staying alive. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.lindenryuujin.34sp.com/zhugeLiang/Sigpic1.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <br>Empires wax and wane; states cleave asunder and coalesce. <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"Swift as the wind, silent as the forest, fierce as the fire, steady as the mountain."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> A banner used by the Takeda clan of Kai (Sengoku Jidai era). </p><i></i>
Author:  New Age Ninja [ Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:49 am ]
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Wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-WAIT.<br><br>You're having a discussion about Ninjas and you haven't yet deferred to ME? Shame on all of you.<br><br>Anyway. Before I begin, that whole Last Samurai ninja scene doesn't count. If more than three ninjas are ever used in a single operation, they count as one big ninja and thus lose a key part of their abilities--stealth. One-on-one...hm.<br><br>First of all, samurai armor wasn't meant to protect from blades at all--it was largely defensive against arrows, to help the samurai die nobly on the battlefield as opposed to being killed by a nameless peasant archer. So the advantage of being armored can be largely discounted, save for the fact that it may restrict the samurai's movements somewhat.<br><br>Given that, it comes down to who can swing the sword vs. who can dodge more effectively. The art of kenjutsu is largely based upon large, powerful strikes and uses a lot of parrying and blocking. The ninja sword art, however, uses multiple quick strikes and tries to avoid sword-to-sword contact(this comes more from equipment than ability--the ninja-to was often more effective as a tool than a weapon, and always poorer in quality than a katana). Since one focuses on hitting and the other on dodging, we have another draw.<br><br>However--the ninja-to was not the only weapon at a ninja's disposal. Shuriken, kusari-gama, poisoned needles, smoke bombs...the list goes on and on. Given the sheer versatility of a ninja's arsenal, they have quite an advantage.<br><br>End result--I have to give it to the ninja. Not out of bias, of course. <p></p><i></i>
Author:  Docs Fox [ Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:04 pm ]
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Not saying I disagree with you NAN, but did you take in account for the different styles of Samurai swordsmanship? <p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img82.exs.cx/img82/1691/kuramasiggy1eh.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
Author:  Chi ME [ Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:49 pm ]
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Reading this topic I can't help but think about a fight between a fully armored Knight and a Samurai or Ninja. <p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><br><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://members.cox.net/melock11/Tenchi/washutypes.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><br></p><i></i>
Author:  Linden Ryuujin [ Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:07 pm ]
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I think I disagree with you NAN. First as you said the Armour of samurai was designed to deflect arrows only, and so was extremely light and easy to move in, any movement restriction would be negligible. However it would help protect against any ranged weapon the ninja might have (of course this assumes the ninja isn't firing from a distance with good accuracy and thus able to aim for an unprotected area, but if this were the case I would hardly be an face to face battle :b). The Ninjato really isn't designed to fight another sword as you said so the samurai would have the advantage here, as well as the fact katana styles are designed to combat other people with a swords etc. If they had two kama that would probably be a better bet, but I don't really think of kama as ninja weapons, plus a good katana would probably take them apart. I donÂ’t know anything about a kusarigama fighting style so I can only speculate, but in close combat I would thinks its main use would be as a kama.<br><br>All in all a Ninja's style is designed for stealth and in an open fight this advantage would be lost, while a samurai would be in his element. I don't think there is any real chance a ninja could win in this situation. <p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END-->EzCode Parsing Error:=]<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.lindenryuujin.34sp.com/Ezboard/Sigpic8.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END-->[<!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>~ Links ~<!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END-->[ <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.lindenryuujin.34sp.com/DreamsOfTwilight/index.php">Dreams of Twilight</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> | <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://pub19.ezboard.com/btenchimuyo79943">Tenchi Board</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> ]</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Favourite Anime:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>1.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Ranma 1/2<!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>2.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Fullmetal Alchemist<!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>3.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Cowboy Bebop<!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>4.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Kenshin OVA Trust and Betrayal<!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>5.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Read or Die</p><i></i>
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