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| Author: | space pirate kid [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:04 pm ] |
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| Author: | Wings of Washu [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:52 pm ] |
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| Author: | Zhuge Liang [ Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:11 am ] |
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| Author: | space pirate kid [ Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:49 am ] |
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| Author: | Linden Ryuujin [ Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:37 am ] |
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I went to Japan last September and here's what I found useful. I do know a little Japanese from a course I've done but it was a few years ago so I remembered little to none. Enough to basically get very confused any time I heard anything in Japanese. For example as soon as I walked into my first cafe and they wanted to seat us I managed to just about ask for a table for two and then the waitress asked something I completely didn't understand. I just stood looking confused and we were taken to a table Not speaking Japanese isn't much of a problem though as most people speak at least a little English (and often get quite excited about a chance to use it for real ^^). Also most places have either a menu with picture of what you're ordering or an English version of the menu. I was staying in Tokyo so I also got a guide book to the city, with a few other useful phrases in the back (that were rarely used, but it was nice to have them written down just in case). I would definitely advise getting a guide book, it was most useful thing I took. In the end I settled on a few phrases I did know which served me very well. Here is my Japanese very useful phrases list. I'm not giving exact translations, just enough to cover their use in the situation outlined. For help on how to pronounce Japanese worlds have a look here (http://www.abcb.com/misc/pron_00.htm) sore wa = that. Very useful for ordering off menus etc. Work out what you want (or just guess) and then point out the items to order with sore. Use: sore wa *point* to = and. Use it instead of wa for ordering lots of things. Use: sore to *point* sore wa*point* Other more general useful words: ohayo gozaimasu = good morning konnichiwa = good day konbanwa = good evening sayonara = good bye sumimasen = excuse me. To get someone's attention. gomenasai = sorry domo arigato gozaimasu = thank you hai = yes iie = no The MOST useful thing for me was knowing Katakana. It is one of the Japanese alphabets and is only used to writing foreign words imported into Japanese. As these words are almost all English if you can read Katakana you can understand almost anything written in it (and there is a lot of katakana around). If you want to try learning it try here (http://www.kanjisite.com/html/start/kan ... ana01.html). The only problem is because Japanese pronunciation is a lot more restricted that ours and their written system doesn't work in the same way ours does (theirs is a lot simpler, and thus much easier to learn) you have to sound out the word, context will often help when you try to translate things (eg if its on a menu you know it's going to be some kind of food). A few words to give you the general idea: カラ (Kora) = Cola (Coca-Cola) オレンジ ジュス (orinji jusu) = Orange Juice アイスクリム (aisukurimu) = Ice Cream |
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| Author: | space pirate kid [ Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:56 am ] |
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wow holy crap! thanx a heap. |
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| Author: | AlphaConqerer [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:10 am ] |
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Yo, Thanks to ZL for bringing this to my attention. I assume you're going to Tokyo. If so you shouldn't need to learn much Japanese to get by. I think the info Linden has supplied is sufficient and then some. Basically you will enjoy yourself more, the more of the language you can learn, because once you start recognizing symbols and deciphering them, it is an awesome experience. But katakana is a great stepping stone. Personally I think you should learn hiragana first/as well, but it's your call. But I have a greater philosophical problem with katakana which doesn't relate so much to this discussion. Anyhow.... For reference, smoking and non-smoking are "Kitsuen" and "Kinen" respectively. You can just say "suwanai" which means "I don't smoke." Are you going to stay in a Japanese person's house? Or will you be staying at more tourist-friendly Western-styled hotels? If the latter, you likely will always have someone on hand speaking enough English to get by. -- Anyhow, to Wings of Washu, yes I taught in Japan for a year and a half if you'd like any input on that. IM me at AConqerer if you're interested; I also PM'd you my email address. Feel free to ask any questions or concerns you may have. -Chris |
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| Author: | space pirate kid [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:50 am ] |
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i appreciate this, thank you. my friend met these people ( we are stayin with) in the states, so i think well be right as far as thats concerned. |
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