Now, Nintendo fanboys say Squaresoft only cares about money and not games. Nintendo cares about money too, of course. Even moreso than Square I think! And here is why.<br><br>Online gaming - It isn't profitable. Nintendo has said it many times. And they will not make an online game because of it. Squaresoft, on the otherhand has made an online game! After the failure of the Final Fantasy movie, Squaresoft STILL ventured into new territory, and they failed.<br><br>do you agree! Probably not but.. eh <p><center>If I only could be strong and say the words I feel...</center></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub19.ezboard.com/uzethora.showPublicProfile?language=EN>Zethora</A> at: 6/22/02 5:46:58 pm<br></i>

Nintendo has begun to change and adapt to the challenge. They do have an online strategy that they are working on, though I don't know it's full details. Nintendo's main focus is centered around videogames--that's what they do---unlike the Goliath companies they are faced with. Besides, what company ISN'T focused on making money? It's just that SONY and MS are after MUCH MORE than the videogame market...they want to dominate all aspects of the living room (from the internet to home theater), and they have a ton more money and resources then Nintendo at their disposal. Yes, Nintendo does have a hoard of reserve cash, but it's scary to blow all your reserves on technology development when MS has 33 BILLION in spare cash it can use, and SONY has the ability to make money faster than you. Squaresoft may have tried to diversify and innovate, but it was their own hubris that made them think FF the movie would be invincible. Nintendo's arrogance in staying with cartridges cost them as well, but at the time, who could have foreseen that SONY would be so succesful? Now that the two companies (Square and Nintendo) have more or less reconciled, and Square is going to bring a totally new, exclusive Final Fantasy game to Gamecube--among other things--I think the rivalry of the Nintendo fanboys vs. Square is slowly fading away. <br><br>ZL <p>Empires wax and wane; states cleave asunder and coalesce.</p><i></i>

One must admit calling the FF Moive the FF Moive was just a Cash in. A more accurate title would of been a Moive made by the creators of FF. Not what people were expecting. But that is about the only real thing I can think of that Square tried to "cash in", though it did fail.<br>Still, I hope they eventually make another film attempt, but this time...<br>1. MAKE IT FF!(style, not based exactly on one of the games of course...)!<br>2. Have Chobos, Moggles, and Summons.<br>3. Make it a Triology, no way you can get a full FF plot in under 3 hours.<br>4. Use a little self-parody... (make the opening credits into a parody of attack in a FF game, complete with "Random battles", "miss", "leveling up", and "subtitles".)<br>5. Have Camo appearences, in fact, even a few non-FF characters (Aya, No. 9, those sorts), and maybe even a few Non-Square characters! (Hell, it could be for all games! Imagine, in the background of a scene, you have Tifa serving Luigi... Now that would be funny!) <p></p><i></i>

It was for name recognition, yes. <br>it did have a subtitle so it would go with the movie better.<br>They tried to make a good movie, and they did very very badly<br> <p><center>If I only could be strong and say the words I feel...</center></p><i></i>

If you look at the moive, it probably would of done better, if it was a normal moive. The plot was quite good, etc, characters good, but the so called target audience were not appleased. If it was not called FF the Moive, those who didn't see it because they thought it was the moive of a silly little computer game might of seem it, and loved it. That was the thing. Square were trying to make a Moive for everyone, but I think the title attracted the usual audience, and detered their actual target audience, who were not the FF fans. <p></p><i></i>

it didn't do well because people don't want to see cg animated people when they can see real people. also! the plot really sucked and it got bad reviews<br><br>and a lot of the things in the games could not be put into the movie <p><center>If I only could be strong and say the words I feel...</center></p><i></i>

News flash. the Majority of Moive Plots are crap. <p></p><i></i>

but Final Fantasy: TGS is unlike other movies, because it's made by the producer of FF :| so it's supposed to actually have a plot! <p><center>If I only could be strong and say the words I feel...</center></p><i></i>

they just cancelled spaceworld, as well. showing that they only care about money and not consumers! <p><center>If I only could be strong and say the words I feel...</center></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub19.ezboard.com/uzethora.showPublicProfile?language=EN>Zethora</A> at: 6/22/02 6:03:35 pm<br></i>

Zethy for the fifth time, it's different.<br><br>You see to MAKE money Nintendo *MUST* produce good games to attract people to buy their console. They want money, yes. But to do it they have to make fun, innovative, and original games that will attract those people's money.<br><br>Square cares about money too, but they value money over making good products. This is because they have such a strong brandname and have established themselves as THE RPG company that regardless of quality people WILL buy their games. Because of this many people have left Square with the stated reason they want to make quality games not make money necessarily. Square's products have slowly declined in quality and now to the point where they are trying very hard to return to their former glory only now they have lost most of their creative staff.<br><br>You could say Square has a monopoly and only needs to work to maintain that and they care little about expanding. Nintendo has to fight hard to get to where they want to get and to do that they must produce good games for their console.<br><br>That is the difference.<br><br>And I am *not* a Nintendo Fanboy. I removed myself from console gaming after the SNES and moved to where the genres of games I like are. On computers. The only console I don't like is the XBox so I am glad to see it's failing and I wish Microsoft had hired me because they made a few big mistakes that I could have directed them to avoid. Of course they would have to work hard to convince me that Microsoft isn't evil and get me to work for them. <p> <br> <div align="center"><font color="#666666"><i>Ten years ago, something happened.<br> Something small. Something most people didn't notice.<br> But it did touch a few of us. Then a few more. And a few more.<br> And soon that something was spreading in all directions at once.<br> One ripple followed another, at a faster and faster pace,<br> each new wave gaining more distance than the last.<br> <br> And the ripples keep coming.</i></font><br> <br> -From "So Far: The First Ten Years of a Vision"<br> <br> <a href="http://www.xenu.net/" target="_top"><img border="0" alt="Operation Clambake" height="61" width="433" src="http://www.xenu.net/archive/banners/oc20.jpg"> </a> <br> <embed src="http://www.xenu.net/archive/banners/diduknow.swf" quality="high" bgcolor="#000000" menu="false" width="320" height="49" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"> <br> <font size="-2"><a href="http://www.xenu.net/">Visit Xenu.net!</a></font> </div></p><i></i>

Nintendo is adapting to there competitors to keep up. I see nothing wrong with that. <br><br>Why are you always Anti-nintendo. You must be a fanboy. <p><img src="http://holyknight.homestead.com/files/lulutag2.gif"></p><i></i>

I see Holyknight's point.<br>The truth is all companies just want to make a profit.That is why Sega no longer make consules, as they found it didn't make them a profit, so they decided to widen their audiance.<br>All every company strieves for is to make a profit. Though, of course, with companies like Nintendo in particulary, this means giving the consumer what they want, and Nintendo usually do this well. Though, I do admit, they did let the Pokémon craze get out of hand. I admit Pokémon snap was fun, but a cash in all the same. <p></p><i></i>

But the difference is in how they make the money and what strategy they do.<br><br>Nintendo MUST stay on the front end of innovation and make good games to ATTRACT people. Square makes crappy games because they don't need to make good games to attract buyers people will buy them anyways. (Look at The Bouncer it still made money).<br><br>I don't think Nintendo cashed in nearly as bad as they could have off of Pokemon. They released most of the games for GameBoy and only had two or three console games for it.<br><br>That's hardly what I would call "cashing" off of. I don't think they cashed off enough and now it's no longer popular or trendy anymore. <p><div align="left"><small>Gloria<br>Honorifice<br>Pralium Facio<br><br>Animus<br>Gradior Quo<br>Prodo<br><br>In Excelsis<br>Precedo<br>Bellator<br>Decerte<br>Adversa<br>Incurro<br>Invadoria<br><br>Desideratus Fatum!<br>Desideratus Bellum!<br></small><br>Coming Soon: New Siggie.<br><br></p><i></i>

Nintendo seems to have made some better games for the Cube. They even made a good RPG, Golden Sun, for the GBA. Golden Sun isnt as good as Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy 3 (I dont know any games that are), but it is better than some of Square's recent work for Sony. I think Golden Sun may have been a wakeup call to Square because someone else was able to make a really good RPG, and this caused them to reconcile with Nintendo before Nintendo could make more good RPGs that would eventually outperform Square's. <p><center> <img src=http://deragon25.netfirms.com/LightGuardian/tuna_11.jpg> </center> "I'm the greatest, and I can't possibly be beat!- Cassius Clay aka Muhammed Ali"I am become death, the destroyer of worlds"- Robert Oppenheimer </p><i></i>

pst golden sun isnt made by nintendo <p></p><i></i>